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Poster: Daddy D Date: Oct 31, 2010 12:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Is this a Grateful Dead forum or a political soapbox forum?

I thought this was a forum specifically relating to the Grateful Dead, their music, history, rumors, opinions, etc.. The fact that the discussion of other music & bands (both of the 60's & 70's plus past & present jam bands) sometimes enters in to the mix is, in my opinion, both to be expected & welcomed. But when a person uses this forum primarily as a soapbox to continually go off on tirades espousing their personal social & political opinions (regardless of whether I agree with it or not), why is this allowed? Isn't there another forum on this site where political, cultural, religious, & social discussions are more suited?

MODS: Is anyone ever banned from this forum? If so, what criteria do you use to decide if & when to ban a particular person or not?

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Poster: user unknown Date: Oct 31, 2010 1:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Is this a Grateful Dead forum or a political soapbox forum?

http://images.stanzapub.com/readers/2008/09/30/sweet2_1.jpg

careful what you ask for....
http://images.stanzapub.com/readers/2008/10/01/achmedbomber_1.jpg

may show up at your door

This post was modified by user unknown on 2010-10-31 20:17:13

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 31, 2010 1:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: a few guidelines

My own usual practice is not to post in any non-Dead thread, and to try not to add to any negative thread. But a few words might be useful:

1. Don't reply to him. He thrives on replies. The more you comment, the more he'll say. If you leave him alone, there's not much he can do but reply to himself. "Silence is the golden bullet."

2. But of course, people can't help themselves. It's election season, people love internet drama, etc. This is a public forum and people can post more or less whatever they want. Sometimes you just have to be patient; over time, you can learn to ignore the 'bad' posts & posters. Not every day is full of sparkling Dead discussions here.

3. But occasionally a distressed user tries to cry for help.
The administrators here generally leave this forum alone except when actual spam appears; we're expected to deal with (that is, ignore) trolls on our own. Archive admins do not believe in censorship. So trolls have to work pretty hard to get banned. The 'terms of use' (quoted below) are fairly vague, but occasionally some nut does cross the line. (g) below can be useful if a troll is clearly disturbing & haranguing other forum users; I also found (h) to come in handy when offensive sexual or racist language was used.
And sometimes the admins will be nice and delete a psychotic diatribe, if you call their attention to it. (I don't think they read this page at all, but you can try posting on the Forums forum, or perhaps the Etree forum, where the admins dwell.)

"In using the Archive's site, Collections, and/or services, you further agree (a) not to violate anyone's rights of privacy, (b) not to act in any way that might give rise to civil or criminal liability, (c) not to use or attempt to use another person's password, (d) not to collect or store personal data about anyone, (e) not to infringe any copyright, trademark, patent, or other proprietary rights of any person, (f) not to transmit or facilitate the transmission of unsolicited email ("spam"), (g) not to harass, threaten, or otherwise annoy anyone, and (h) not to act in any way that might be harmful to minors, including, without limitation, transmitting or facilitating the transmission of child pornography, which is prohibited by federal law and may be reported to the authorities should it be discovered by the Archive."

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 31, 2010 2:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a few guidelines

Guideline # 4: I like to think if you can't relate your current interest on some historical topic, politics or what have you, to a point made in a DEAD related post, then you aren't worthy of making the hijack...I am not trying to defend my many tangential posts on PMs past, military history, and the like, but if someone wants to have a facebook moment (I am the number one offender), at least try to do so in a dead or dying thread, somewhere down the board so as to avoid distracting or otherwise disturbing the DEAD related discussions (again, I have failed to follow this advice many times, but try to follow it more and more these days).

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 1, 2010 6:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a few guidelines

Is this the 3:10 to Yuma?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 1, 2010 6:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a few guidelines

Yes, but since we're the only state (I know, I know) that doesn't observe daylight savings time, it actually left at 2:10 Hollywood time.

A better movie about trains, stranded stand-alone heros, and an uncaring (save one) local populace, for my money, is Bad Day at Black Rock with Spencer Tracy and a young Lee Marvin and Ernie Borgnine. Nothing to knock your socks off, but a decent little over the top commentary on WWII internment, etc., out West.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Nov 1, 2010 10:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a few guidelines

aboard the hijack train...

Since I'm a relative newcomer here, not knowing where everyone resides... does your post infer that you live in Arizona? I'll be visiting Tucson over Thanksgiving week. Having been there several times already, we're always looking for something new to do there. (Desert Museum, check. Tubac, check.) How about a good (relatively easy) hike suggestion?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 1, 2010 11:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a few guidelines

Head up to Oro Valley, and out into the desert. If you want it more "civilized", drive up Sabino Cyn, or to either side of the city to SagNat'lMon's (e & w), and take hikes on trails there...finally, you can drive S like you are going back to Tubac, but turn E into Santa Rita mtns at Continental. Beautiful hikes abound.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Oct 31, 2010 3:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a few guidelines

Please folks , I know it's sometimes hard but #1 is key .
And we are two days away from election day , so many folks are jazzed and it's going to spill over into IA . Personally I do enjoy writing about politics , but after some foolish posts on my part I go to another forum to write about such matters . My intent being to focus here on the commonalities we share then the relatively petty threads that quickly divide .

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 31, 2010 3:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: with no apology whatsoever for the repetition..

The rules of forum posting.

Rule one:
People who tell you they won’t take any shit are WITHOUT EXCEPTION the same people who love to dish it out.

Rule two:
People who pride themselves on telling it like it is will WITHOUT EXCEPTION absolutely hate it when you try to do the same.

Rule three:
If you haven’t realized by now that you’re an asshole you probably never will.

But you are.

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Poster: djlhdjfh Date: Oct 31, 2010 4:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: with no apology whatsoever for the repetition..

Does this mean you're an asshole?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 31, 2010 5:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: with no apology whatsoever for the repetition..

Am I supposed to take seriously someone who apparently generated their name by random monkey keystrokes?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 31, 2010 1:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Is this a Grateful Dead forum or a political soapbox forum?

Sometimes it's hard to hear the music play over the deafening cacophony of grinding axes.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Oct 31, 2010 1:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Is this a Grateful Dead forum or a political soapbox forum?

you are correct, I withdraw my axe

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 31, 2010 2:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Is this a Grateful Dead forum or a political soapbox forum?

You bury your hatchet wherever you see fit, rasta.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Oct 31, 2010 2:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Is this a Grateful Dead forum or a political soapbox forum?

withdraw your axe...

into the striking position???

Photobucket

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: Oct 31, 2010 7:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Is this a Grateful Dead forum or a political soapbox forum?

I... ah, I keep my feathers numbered for just such occasions; as for ah...souls, we all have'em; the considerate majority keep'em clean & covered instead of rudies who leave'em dirty & exposed.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Oct 31, 2010 2:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Is this a Grateful Dead forum or a political soapbox forum?

darn! I wanted to sound peasfull. I oppose the slaughter of bovine & chicken's (reminds me of a funny southpark episode which made a GRATE point at the end)

hope we're not what we eat (st least me)

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Poster: duckpond74 Date: Oct 31, 2010 1:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Is this a Grateful Dead forum or a political soapbox forum?

From the Internet Archive's "terms of use":

"In using the Archive's site, Collections, and/or services, you further agree ... (f) not to transmit or facilitate the transmission of unsolicited email ("spam"), (g) not to harass, threaten, or otherwise annoy anyone ..."

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Poster: user unknown Date: Oct 31, 2010 1:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Is this a Grateful Dead forum or a political soapbox forum?

"In using the Archive's site, Collections, and/or services, you further agree not to annoy anyone."

I guess we're all getting banned then, huh?

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